that was solve morning at best. the idea that this guy answered the tax issue, you, the mainstream media, all the cable is absolutely outrageous that nobody has followed up and asked this guy specifically governor, when you come up with all these ridiculous statements that you going to save the fence, that you are going to cut everybody 20%. you are going to save social security and medicare and yet you are going to do it by cutting into certain tax loopholes and you won't name one loophole, where are you, bill? ask him the question. >> bill: listen, any comes in for an interview i certainly will: >> bill: do you believe in the political axiom that perception is relation? do you believe in that? >> i believe -- i believe certainly perception is reality to a certain extent. but only -- >> bill: only make your mistakes. i think president obama making the same mistake you are making. wait a minute, you will get your reply. president obama made the same mistake you are making on the factor right now. he is too wonkish.